From wandering in the blogosphere (all the way over to Kenya, apparently), a quote from C. S. Lewis which must have been from the same work as quoted here.

If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.

A Kenyan Analyst has gathered many more gems, and I don’t want to requote everything quoted over there, but I can’t resist this one:

You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

If you haven’t yet, pop back a few posts for a juicy quote from G. K. Chesterton. I wonder if I can find any from J. R. R. Tolkien? Those brits and their initials and their pithy sayings! Maybe if I started calling myself R. J. I would become more clever.

P.S. Kenyan Analyst also has collections of quotes of various opinions about Jesus, through the millenia, originally from this site, which is is one of the best-designed websites I’ve ever seen, and fun to roam around; but ultimately not very Christian — you can wander on that site for quite a while before you detect any hint that Jesus is God incarnate, or that he was sinless, or that we are sinful, or that the good news of the gospel (through faith, his sinlessness can be imputed to us) is only good news because without it there is bad news! Saved From What, indeed. No wonder people are staying away from churches in droves; people are smart enough to realize that without redemption, there’s no point to Jesus. I could keep going, but there’s a limit to how much I’ll put in a P.S.

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5 Responses

  1. I love reading comments on Amazon books. Check this out from your “Saved From What?” book reference:

    This book is part of R.C. Sproul’s attempt to prop up the penal theory of the atonement, and to convince people that they stand in need of the forebearance of infinite Divine retribution.

    Unfortunately for Sproul, and fortunately for the rest of us, he is attempting to do the equivalent of holding back the mighty Mississippi; scholars, preachers, and everyday Christians everywhere are being liberated from the notion that God’s default nature is to want to render infinite suffering upon his creatures or that the sufferings of the innocent Christ has value to God.

    Scholars of historical theology are teaching us that Sproul’s ideas aren’t nearly as ancient as he claims they are; they were absent from any of the early church fathers. Scholars of Biblical exegesis are teaching us that Sproul’s ideas aren’t really taught in the Bible; the “New Perspective on Paul” tells us that the word “justification” does not mean what Sproul says it means. Finally, as the Orthodox Church gains prominance in the United States, we will see that this way of thinking about Christianity is not shared by Christians.

    Saved from What? Perhaps in this day and age, the thing we are most needful of salvation from is Sproul’s kind of theology.

  2. Thanks for reading. I’m a Lewis enthusiast :-) And I like your idea of going British for wisdom’s sake :-) Blessings!

  3. @Kenyan: bless you too!

    @Bruce: I know, I read that comment too. It just goes to show you where the NPP rabbit-trail leads to. So then is this guy saying that the Orthodox Church (I’m assuming he means Eastern Orthodox, not Orthodox Presbyterian, and not just an adjective, as in “as correct thinking gains prominence in the United States”) holds to universal atonement?

    We’ve got a revised form of Pascal’s wager here. If universal atonement, then it doesn’t matter what I believe, because it’ll all be forgiven anyways. If people “stand in need of the forebearance of infinite Divine retribution”, then I better believe in Christ the old-fashioned way. So given no risk vs. infinite risk, I better act to protect myself from infinite risk.

    Also, this guy believes in universal atonement, why does he care what other people (in particular R. C. Sproul) think?

  4. Also, this guy believes in universal atonement, why does he care what other people (in particular R. C. Sproul) think?

    This is precisely the problem with postmodern theologians. They don’t believe we should buy into anyone else’s authoritative answers, and they want us to pay them for telling us that.

  5. By “Orthodox Church” I think he means not the EOC but correct thinking generally, WRT doctrine. I don’t believe this guy is a universalist. He seems more like a Finney-fan who outright denied any forensic action/imputed righteousness on the part of Christ and saw the cross as nothing but a great example of sacrifice/works which we should emulate. If this guy can be considered a spokesman for NPP, then he just blew their cover all to you-know-where.

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