We’re Even

In 2000, 97,419 hyper-Democrat (Green Party) Nader-voters in Florida gave the Presidency to the Republicans, and haven’t stopped whining since (you like how CNN still lists Florida as “not declared”?)

In 2006, 10,324 hyper-Republican (Libertarian) Jones-voters in Montana gave the Legislature to the Democrats. (Some blame also in Virginia, for 26,106 voters for “Common Sense Conservative Independent Gail ‘for Rail’ Parker“.)

We’re even.

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8 Responses

  1. Independent voters scare me. If you have the slightest idea of what is going on in the world, you are a either liberal or a conservative. The “swingers” who go back and forth have no concrete (or should I say, “stone”) set of standards and basically just vote their feelings (ie. who looks nice, who sounds nice, who says they are gonna change things but gives no specifics, etc). Just one more example why mob rule doesn’t work real well.

  2. Always wise to pick the best of the “realistic” options. Otherwise, I would be writing in Pastor Jack Hayford’s name on every presidential ballot.

    Had a similar situation here this year. Voted for a more conservative democrat (Henry Cuellar) for Congress in a special election (redistricting)over the more liberal democrat and a conservative republican, who had a spit’s chance in a whirlwind of winning down here on the Mexican border.

  3. If you have the slightest idea of what is going on in the world, you are a either liberal or a conservative.

    Disagreed. Vehemently.

  4. Why are Libertarians hyper-Republican?

  5. Because they believe in even smaller government, even less taxes. I guess on the social side my characterization is not accurate, since libertarians would be “let’s just not make a law” even if “values”-based Republican voters might think there is a compelling moral reason.

  6. Forrester, while you are on your way to being a theonomist with that quote, I must respectfully disagree that it speaks to my comment #1 since the republicans aren’t really that conservative. The most conservative among us want to get back to God’s Law which protects from big government, big business and all other kinds of evil doers. =)

  7. Forrester, while you are on your way to being a theonomist with that quote, I must respectfully disagree that it speaks to my comment #1 since the republicans aren’t really that conservative. The most conservative among us want to get back to God’s Law which protects from big government, big business and all other kinds of evil doers. =)

    Understood — and glad that you agree that both big government and big business have their problems.

    I was actually objecting more to the “If you have the slightest idea of what is going on in the world” statement. I flatter myself in thinking I have at least a slight idea, and yet the older I get the more “liberal” my thinking becomes. You’d probably say this is an improvement considering that in college I thought big business was The Answer, the public education system should be dismantled, and the environment was given to us by God to harness and pollute as we pleased.

    Now I see that unregulated corporations are dehumanizing, that public schools are a measure of common grace (effectively protecting against widespread indolence and crime), and that environmental abuse is poor stewardship, disrespectful of God’s creation, and as stupid as defecating all over your own house. (Limejelly, if you’re reading, you can thank Christianity for bringing me to these understandings; liberalism did nothing for me back then.) These positions aren’t typically labeled “conservative,” but then theonomy takes a different approach, as you say.

    What frustrates me is precisely what you point out — that Republicans aren’t conservative. Or take the labels away — Republicans don’t support the positions I do, and there’s no good reason for them not to be doing so. Why aren’t they strong on the environment? Why don’t they take on the tobacco industry and the lawsuit-frenzied lawyers with gusto? Why don’t they work to get us off our pathetic oil dependence? Why, when it comes to education, do they embrace top-down, one-size-fits-all measures (No Child Left Behind) that trump anything in the Democrats’ socialism manual?

    I’m convinced that the answers to the first three questions are because Republicans want the votes abandoned by Democratic values. The answer to the fourth question is because Republicans are scared of empowering teachers, because the great majority of teachers are Democrats.

    Those are pathetic rationales for building a party platform.

    I’m a registered Republican because I’m even more horrified by some Democratic planks (pro-abortion being the first). The further into this political train wreck we proceed, however, the more I wonder whether our nation is ready for a third political party. Per RubeRad’s post above, I’m reluctant to throw my vote away on an independent loser. I just wonder if a concerted, sustained grassroots effort could build enough support to enable a viable third option, something other than X or !X.

    What a sad, stupid political system we fell into. No party is going to be 100% right, just as neither will be 100% wrong. The solution, then, is to create a 51/49 split of right/wrong issues in order to gather enough stragglers under your umbrella to get elected? Batting .501 may be amazing in baseball, but it’s failure everywhere else.

  8. Rube,

    Re: 5

    I am a registered Libertarian.

    Do you know that the Constitution only said that the government should provide for a national defense and protect our liberties? That’s it.

    Does that mean that there shouldn’t be, for example, an anti-abortion law? No, because the unborn should also have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Should people be allowed to steal? No. Duh. Protecting rights of all people means no one gets to steal.

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding the Libertarian platform, but it seems to me like it’s not amoral, it just isn’t hypermoral. It’s just advocating a return to what the federal government is SUPPOSED to do. Maybe I’m wrong.

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