All right, another H&S in the bank. Gary Pavlovich acquitted himself admirably, demonstrating an extraordinary amount of research for a layman, and Mark Strauss was again gracious to give of his time for H&S.

A little H&S-related news:

  • Mark your calendars now for H&S: Paedocommunion, Jan 28 2012.
  • Also, take a moment to browse the nifty new calendar of upcoming events (or just check Facebook) for our good friends at Hess Brewing. San Diego Beer Week is coming up, and Hess is involved with a number of great events around town, not to mention regular happenings at the tasting room, like F.A.C., Tri Tip Thursdays, and regular tasting room hours.

And here are your .mp3s. The format is a little different this time, with introductory material from both speakers as well as myself, which I broke out into a separate .mp3.


For further reading, here are some recommended resources from Gary Pavlovich.

And here are some resources recommended by Mark Strauss.

9 Responses

  1. I’d recommend this book on textual criticism. It’s simply excellent.


  2. I have listened to the first two mp3s in my car, and about to listen to the q&a.

    Gary seems like a nice fellow, but obviously a little outgunned here by Mark. Not sure if Gary does much public speaking, but it was a little rough… Seems like a smart guy, just needs a little more fluidity and speaking practice. Maybe throw in more illustrations to keep it interesting for we who don’t obsess about families of manuscripts every day…

    Mark clearly is a pro at teaching/speaking. Even without the benefit of his slides, he was engaging and interesting throughout.

    I feel sorry for the King James crowd. Listening to Gary felt a little bit like listening to an Amish farmer dazzle us with the wonders of the horse-drawn carriage. I’m afraid the KJV has become obsolete (just like myspace and newspapers) and it’s time to move on.

    As interesting as the debate was (and was not at times), I think if I had to listen to any more thoughts about which text was hundreds of years fresher than another, I may just have to drive my car into a wall, or start looking through the glove compartment for a rope to hang myself.

    God bless us all.

  3. Erhman *is* on the bad-guys’ side. Sadly, he studied under and lauds his mentor, Metzger.
    A good anodyne for Metzger is Clark’s Logical Criticisms of Textual Criticism:

  4. Looking forward to hearing Strauss and Pavlovich.

    Also please see Wallace and Ehrman go at it: http://www.csntm.org/

  5. For other pro-KJV (AV) resources, see the Trinitarian Bible Society: http://www.tbsbibles.org/ They do not argue for the “KJV only” silliness.

    From Wikipedia: “Their primary function is to translate and disseminate worldwide Bibles in languages other than English. The translation of Bibles into non-English languages is based on the Hebrew Masoretic Text and Greek Textus Receptus which underlie the Authorised (King James) Version of the Bible and other Reformation-era Bibles.”

    “The Trinitarian Bible Society does not believe the Authorised Version to be a perfect translation, only that it is the best available translation in the English language.” {From TBS Quarterly Record #578, p. 8}

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