Hoagies & Stogies

What is Hoagies & Stogies?

Hoagies & Stogies is a men’s fellowship for reformed, theological debate; it was created by one of my elders before he was an elder. When he was ordained, he got too busy, and he gave the reins of the ‘ministry’ to me. Men gather for a simple meal of hoagies, with home-brewed exquisitely craft-brewed beer, or soft drinks. After a while, we all refill our glasses, and those who are so inclined light up their best stogies and kick back and enjoy a theological debate. But if you are not a smoker (like me), or not a drinker (or not both!), you are still welcome. (You can consider it your mission to ensure that Christian liberty is exercised with due charity!)

What/when/where is the next Hoagies & Stogies?

• TBD

What’s in the future for Hoagies & Stogies?

Why don’t you go find out?

What were the previous Hoagies & Stogies?

Most recent and on back, with links to post-debate discussion/audio when available…

• Dropbox folder with mp3 of all recorded H&S
• Eastern Orthodox — Pro: Simeon Corona, Con: Ben Rochester
• Death Penalty — Pro: Ron Gleason, Con: Don Lowe
• Images of Christ In Worship — Pro: John Bombaro, Con: Mike Brown
• The Rapture — Pro: Peter Vik, Con: Ben Rochester
• Why Johnny Can’t Sing Hymns — Author’s forum with T. David Gordon
• Paedocommunion — Pro: Glen Gundert, Con: Josh Brisby
• KJV/TR — Pro: Gary Pavlovich, Con: Mark Strauss
• Roman Catholic Baptism — Valid: Ray Call, Invalid: Roger Wagner
• Images of Christ — Con: David Van Drunen, Pro: Reuben Settergren
• Romans 11 & Future for Israel — Pro: Nate Taylor, Con: Ben Rochester
• Open Mic Night — many speakers, with a wide variety of provocative topics
• Israel — Interview & Q/A with David Zadok
• Baptismal Regeneration — Pro: John Bombaro, Con: Dave Okken
• Translation — Functional: Mark Strauss, Formal: Ed Hale
• Sabbath — Sabbatarian: Theonomist, Loose: Reuben Settergren
• Confessionalism — Pro: Brian Tallman, Con: Davie Copp
• Communion — Real Spiritual Presence: Mike Brown, Real Physical Presence: John Kent
• Baptiterians — Strict: Mike Brown, Tolerant: Brian Tallman
• Federal Vision (Covenant of Works) — Merit: Jonathan Goundry, Grace: Jacob Moya
• Dispensationalism — Pro: John Pulliam, Con: Brian Tallman
• Exclusive Psalmody — Pro: Mark England, Con: Jonathan Goundry
• Ordination of Women — Pro: Glen Scorgie, Con; Brian Tallman
• Just War (U.S. in Iraq) — Pro: Guy Kemp, Con; Brian Tallman
• Postmil/Amil — Postmil: Tom McManus, Amil: Gene Cook
• Theonomy — Pro: Theonomist, Con: Gene Cook
• Christian Counseling — Integrationist: George “Skip” Scipione, Christian: Jim Newheiser
• Creation Days — Framework: Dean Abbott, Day-Age: Reuben Settergren, 6×24: Tom Moller
• Is Roman Catholicism Christian? — Pro: Dean Abbott, Con: Mike Ewing
• Does God “desire” salvation of the non-elect? — Pro: Brian Tallman, Con: Mike Ewing
• Tongues — Pro: Brian Tallman, Con: Mike Ewing

Note that occasionally, a speaker was acting as devil’s advocate, so not everybody listed can actually be credited (blamed) for a doctrine just because they are listed here.

What are the rules of Hoagies & Stogies?

• Hoagies & Stogies is a men’s fellowship; please don’t bring any female-type people.
• The cost to all but H&S officials is a low $7 to cover the cost of food and beer.
• Bring your own Stogies, pipes, or other smoking materials, if desired.
• All smoking (and debating) will be outside, so also bring your own lawn chairs (and jackets).
• Affirmative RSVPs are mandatory (negative RSVPs optional), to ensure sufficient food. I will accept RSVPs all the way up to the day of, so never feel that it is too late to get in on the action!

What is the format of Hoagies & Stogies?

• Men gather at 5pm on the specified Saturday night, and start eating. When everybody is settled with a sandwich, a chair, a stogie, and a beer (or any subset thereof), we proceed with:
• Moderator’s opening statement (5-10min): Define relevant terminology, explain the issue, establish scope, precisely state the agreed-upon question.
• Opening statements (20min ea): each debater argues positively for their own position
• Rebuttals (10min ea): each debater argues negatively against their opponent’s position
• Closing (5min ea): each debater gives a 5 minute summary
• Break: submit questions, refill glasses
• Q&A: Debaters address submitted questions as a panel discussion.

What if I have something to say about Hoagies & Stogies?

If you want to RSVP, or have questions or suggestions for upcoming topics or debaters, just drop a comment right here, or send an email to hoagiesstogies@gmail.com, and we can talk about it.